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#121

No one cares if the Noble sees whispers to the King besides an Evil King who is pressured by it. The Noble is BD so people are not worried about a Noble. In otherwords we want to maximize the odds of Aristocrat seeing a whisper to king and minimize the odds of Noble doing the same


#122

Oh, then your version would make sense


#123

but it would also be good for both Unseen and Cult to have slight ways of consistent whisper spotting


#124

And they do. I did not suggest Apostle be changed.

Unlike with Unseen the Cult can just get more of them as needed and can also start with the Apostle


#125

Mostly talking about Unseen here


#126

Gossip is fine. Intrigue outs you though (I know it wouldn’t be immediate but still). I don’t see why you feel the need to change intrigue from how it is right now


#127

If you are changing the day Ability’s then Apostle can’t be left behind


#128

Because it has the same issue that the current noble does, it doesn’t fit with the theme of Aristocrat. Aristocrat should be about applying pressure, not framing. Another class should be devoted to framing

Should political pressure be replaced with transcript or encode then?


#129

Frames apply pressure. That’s basically all they do.

Ye


#130

Oh and a MM or Possessor buff still is far more likely to help this than anything else we have suggested


#131

I would prefer it if possessor was granted a passive that let it hear all whispers instead of the MM buff. Giving an almost guaranteed evil class an ability to hear all whispers is a bit too much


#132

While that would technically work it’s also too much. We don’t need him to see everyone. Just one or 2 people in particular


#133

1 guess which person that is


#134

why


#135

Because then that person is doing all the work.


#136

im fine with that lol, if it’s the king


#137

Why does it being the king make it any different?


#138

It might be too much, but NKs should be a threat. Right now, NKs are just an annoyance. Reaper is close to what a NK should be, but even reaper could use a few buffs.


#139

the purpose of king is to lead

if people don’t whisper him, he can’t lead


#140

Would reaper be bad with occupy immunity.

Or being able to control someone who you normally would be prevented from visting to kill someone else? Not like x kills y who is jailed but x is forced to kill y when x is jailed