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Prince should be vulnerable to HH


#101

That’s literally the point. Making something counterable is nerfing


#102

Here is why this is not the way to approach that. I don’t think Prince is overpowered, so I’m not going to suggest any nerfs to him either.


#103

tell me in what world is a three shot strongman vigilante roleblocker whateverthethingisalled mystic not op?


#104

Something can be powerful, but not overpowered. Having uneven power in the town makes the game more interesting and prevents public massclaiming.

Roles like the NK/MM/CL are equally “broken” if you phrase them like you do.


#105

fair


#106

If you’d want to nerf it, why wouldn’t you just reduce execute count to 2 or something like that? Removes all the conditionals this “nerf” would have. (It wouldn’t even be too much of a nerf as I estimate the chance of a Drunk HH’ing a Prince are about the same as an Alcoholic doing it)


#107

Execute count should be 3, mainly because I love the number three, but not the main reason the main reason is because we shouldn’t nerf the killing power


#108

Definitely not. Alcoholic is significantly more likely to HH a prince because he would do it deliberately


#109

And it isn’t really swing if it requires planning


#110

Except Drunk also spawns in Cult games and is not always converted by a Mastermind. I can count the number of times I saw an Alcoholic on my hand.


#111

There is no planning around the class simply not spawning.


#112

And whatever number you come up with is less than the number of Alcoholics that appear in your games


#113

Under that reasoning every convert is broken because of swing


#114

Solic pick a number 1-14 on N1. Prince was 3.

Pick a number 3 as alcoholic when prince outed. You happy houred him


#115

A Drunk could and WILL do the same thing in ToL. Bickering about its probability is not going to do this argument any good.


#116

it is though. Your argument was it happening as often


#117

Unlikely. And as we said it would be even less likely if this change happened


#118

No, because the initial premise was that Prince was broken or the game is imbalanced and I do not agree with that.


#119

I don’t think we ever said that we just wanted a counter

Correction
I said OP not broken :wink:


#120

That wasn’t the initial premise. Or mine anyways, I don’t speak for FK