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Magician/Enchantress Bd/unseen offensive


#1

Magician
Blue Dragon Offensive
Mystical Work (Passive) Immune to occupation and redirection.
Focus (Day) - select two players only the first player may visit the second, other visitors will be occupied. - 2 Uses.
Lure (Day) - Occupy a player if they don’t target the second - 2 Uses.
Gate Barrier (Night)"- Select two players they will be unable to visit each. other. You may not select focused players.
Whirlwind (Night) - everyone targeting the first player will be forced to the second. - 2 Uses.

Converts into.

The Enchantress
Unseen Offensive
Mystical Work (Passive) Immune to occupation and redirection.
Focus (Day) - select two players only the first player may visit the second, other visitors will be occupied. - 2 Uses.
Lure (Day) - Occupy a player if they don’t target the second - 2 Uses.
Dark Rune (Night)"- Select a player occupying them learning who they tried to visit. - 3 Uses
Whirlwind (Night) - everyone targeting the first player will be forced to the second. - 3 Uses

Please give me some feedback whever negative or positive, an offensive Bd is much needed right now as we only have two.

Feedback from abilities.

lure
[X] Didn’t visit [Y] so you occupied them
[X] targeted [Y]

Gate Barrier
[X] Visited [Y], so you occupied them.
[X] Didn’t visit [Y]

Dark Rune
You occupied [X], they attempted to visit [Y]
You occupied [X], they didn’t visit anyone.


#2

OwO Enchantress


#3

Magician is a girl yea.

Females can be offensive too.

Also there needs to be reason why Invoker is female if all converts are male. Lel


#4

I am offended that there are no girl offensives >:(


#5

Nah, it’s fine I don’t like the devs forcing a female bd offensive it’s up to there creative ideas.

Just like I wouldn’t be mad if all Offensives are female.
I just like the idea of a female offensive class.

Gender doesn’t bother me that much either way. It should always be up to the creators on what they interpritate in media, I like think its good to have diversity as long as its not forced.


#6

I feel like the night abilities are more supportive than offensive


#7

Also. Whirlwind is literally just a worse tornado


#8

Nah its more offensive I have to disagree. I think tornado on Cw is supportive but it’s main ability is based on suplort

Offensive is preventing others from actions ect.

Whirlwind is more useful Imo, because it doesn’t completelyswap off players.

Mercenary feels more of both offensive and support.

But this feels more offensive with some support.


#9

Oh wait. I missread whirlwind sorry.

Still support though


#10

Merc is 100% support


#11

Look. When you really get down to it. Physician is an AOE occupier that only works on attackers and has special rules with some special rules regarding feedback, bleed ect. But the primary function is to STOP killers. This is identical to if a butler occupied the Killer directly in all but feedback.

So thus there has to be some way to differentiate between the 2 types when presented with an ability that isn’t pre-existing. The distinction? AOE


#12

No I disagree with that, stone wall and SG are the same apart from Stonewall doesn’t block kill/Conv moves while yes mercenary is more directly protecting someone it still occupies players the protection aspect of mercenary makes it support but you can’t deny that it’s also a offensive move.

I’d like to see your reasoning behind it being “Support”


#13

Stone wall is ALSO support. However since he has intimidation it goes either way when deciding which is his primary so it ends up being arbitrary. Thus offensive.


#14

Support = AOE Offensive


#15

I disagree support is about helping others while offensive is more towards messing with someone’s night action


#16

Yes. Stone wall absolutely fits that description


#17

You are helping others. Specifically you are helping the Killers and converters


#18

Then again it’s distracting everyone else and not helping the investigative, supports ect.

Tbf support and Offensive are similar


#19

And look at all of the OTHER cases of ability’s which have an AOE effect and stop ability’s.

Heal stops kills: Support
Enforcer stops visits: Support
Merc stops visits too: Support
CW redirects visits: Support


#20

Cw redirect isn’t support but it’s main ability is.