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Illusionist Rework Please


#1

So new Illusionist is not fun. I was converted midgame when the last investigative died. I had literally nothing to do the rest of the game. Just exist.

Please buff Mindwarp or replace Mental Blur


#2

If all the investigatives are dead and you have 3 unseen alive you are going to win unless you misplay during the day

i don’t see anything to complain about here tbh

Mental Blur needs replaced for different reasons but mind warp doesn’t need buffed


#3

Nothing to complain about? I had 4 abilities and all of them were useless. Pretty sure we lost that game, anyway I left when alch bombed me


#4

Just because an ability is useless in your scenario doesn’t make it always useless.


#5

And if you lost after having 3 unseen members alive in the midgame, with ZERO investigators alive, you’ve done something horribly wrong.


#6

/support. They should revert the mind warp nerf. There were plenty of solutions other than nerfing it.

It needs buffing because there was nothing wrong with the old one. No feedback should be infallible. And if it was really “confusing”, then they could’ve told players that they were mind warped upon their death, add the phrase “or you were mind warped” to all feedback, or increase the commonness of it so people are more ready for it. Nerfing for non-balance reasons should only be a last resort, if ever


#7

have you ever considered mental blurring for the memes?


#8

Mental Blur:Replace all of X’s feedback with something of your choosing

This way, you could get really creative with what you wanted to do.
You could take away messages that could be really important and replace them with you were occupied or something like that.

Say X got attacked and healed. He didn’t know he was attacked OR healed and now the physician who was “going to be confirmed” says he healed X and X accuses Y of lying.


#9

What about a slightly more simplified version: Mental Blur makes the target think they were occupied (ability still succeeds/fails normally), and all feedback they would receive is received by the Illusionist instead. Occupy immune players would still see their abilities feedback, but no other feedback (heals, attacks, etc.) and would see that somone tried to occupy them.

It would mean all occupation feedback would need to be changed to include mental blur though.

Mystic and Illusionist are now occupy immune (I believe?) so it could make butler a viable fake claim.


#10

but

this is actually more fun and creative, I don’t really see why you would just do occupy


#11

Also gives illusionist who are converted a whole bunch of claim space


#12

Also

You can replace princess flirt message with social/support or another message

Replace a sheriff with NS/Unseen

You could get creative


#13

It also means you gotta be careful on not giving an support class invest results lol


#14

I see that it would be far more fun too, but I’m not sure there’s a way to do it within the UI of the game. If you make it so the Illu can type the feedback instead then it requires full knowledge and correct spelling of the system messages, or else it would be found out. You would also have to put in player names yourself, wrong targets would mess it up.

If you can find a way to do it, then /support 100%


#15

I just want to say
Mental Blur Prince-

Summary

We’re no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment’s what I’m thinking of
You wouldn’t get this from any other guy

I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling
Gotta make you understand

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

We’ve known each other for so long
Your heart’s been aching, but
You’re too shy to say it
Inside, we both know what’s been going on
We know the game and we’re gonna play it

And if you ask me how I’m feeling
Don’t tell me you’re too blind to see

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

(Ooh, give you up)
(Ooh, give you up)
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)

We’ve known each other for so long
Your heart’s been aching, but
You’re too shy to say it
Inside, we both know what’s been going on
We know the game and we’re gonna play it

I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling
Gotta make you understand

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you


#16

You were converted to the idiots!

The amount of trolling would be unreal and insanely funny


#17

I like the concept but it would be better as a drug rework. They both have the same basic idea, and drug needs a rework atm


#18

but

mental blur is literally perfect for it

DRUG SHOULD JUST MAKE THE TARGET DO THEIR ACTION A NIGHT LATER :wink:


#19

And what about their feedback?


#20

You were occupied if you were an investigative
It would act like you did your action but not happened if not