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#423

A nice way to make NK suffer


#424

We didn’t say much about classes we didn’t like. We spend like 30 posts selecting the best submissions and then made like 300 posts to balance it. We’re only looking for one killer after all. It’s in the private normal FoL changes thread, so can’t really make it public.


#425

Since you did ask for it, these are my personal thoughts on it.

Confirmable yikes.

Limits design space. Every original and next passive has to be considered with this ability in mind.

This has a lot going on, but it’s a very complicated class. Almost feels more like an offensive too.

Never to this.

Warlord is also quite complicated. Your classes were overall decent enough, but the unique aspects are mainly that it has a lot of clauses/limitations on specific things and no easy way to take those out while maintaining its identity. Most BD classes should just be a relatively “simple” design to me.

Some thematic things are also that probably just Lancer feel like it’d fit in flavor wise. A lot of this is just personal opinion though.

We tried to keep these things in mind when selecting:

Overall orientation/goal/direction of class (ex: Observer - visits checker, Physician - counter against bleeds and having a support)
Class dynamic with other BD killers (Prince needs to stay stronger)
Confirmability
Balance
Fun
Lynching needs to remain BD strongest killing arsenal (NK/MM need to largely remain directly immune except to Prince)
Complexity
Skill ceiling
Lore wise needs to fit within the ToL universe (Martyr is a questionable naming and thus theming choice for instance)

(Probably would have been smarter to post that when posting the competition oh well.)


#426

also Solic:

removes one-shot immunity piercing to instead remove immunity from up to three people at once on a constant basis


#427

how dare my fellow judges rig the game against my flawless class by citing a rule that was there from the start :^)


#428

Best thing is that if We would agree that no one else makes classes they would have added it to fol


#429

Oh boy. Do me next! I love being judged!


#430

He is taken for What I know


#431

Ironically review Witness or i’ll put it in my next bastard game


#432

It is still an extra step over jail exeing, it takes two nights and stays an indirect kill like Hunter/Knight, although one that is way more easily accessible. I realize the irony, but the Archer also has zero defensive/investigative/confirmable tools (except from multikilling or killing a death immune).

Also those are merely considerations. It’s so hard to make something that satisfies everything.


#433

Woo new title


#434

wooo another wazza alt


#435

wazza Orange alt


#436

It’s a Wazza alt

It says it right there


#437

is it even allowed to have a alt join ur own game


#438

Bump


#439

Why are you bumping a finished competition…?


#440

Why are you being mean


#441

Finished but no winner announced?


#442

Frost read the thread :smile: