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#263

makes small one character edits to reset orange’s position when he comments on it to troll him


#264

I need sleep so you get the Cliffs Notes version

Seneschal doesn’t have that much killing power, especially because there aren’t that many occ-immune scum iirc. This definitely seems like it is more of an Offensive class that was given some very limited kill power at the expense of a true Killer niche to fill. Also, why use a day ability to kill at night when a night ability slot is open?

The Turdpile keeping redirection immunity as Assassin is nice, but I am even more concerned about the day ability kill here. This is strictly better than Poacher’s free bleed, and adding in the ability to ensure that attack bypasses healing is really strong. Brotherhood is an interesting occupation skill that I don’t dislike, but let people choose Support? Who knows what future classes will have.

All in all I like the Turcopolier a lot more than the Seneschal, but I think the Turcopolier is probably too strong while the Seneschal is too unfocused


#265

Wait did you not know what that meant?


#266

And what?


#267

where are your acolyte alts?


#268

I think Geyde made some

I haven’t read them tbh


#269

Should be here


#270

I believe every class proposition is supposed to have them as specific to the proposed BD class.


#271

Yes so Geyde made some


#272

Plus there are multiple entries, some that I would say could totally deserve to win, that don’t have them


#273

ah here they are

Cult Alts
(Bullseye)
2 cost cult alt (Guilt alt) At any time, the Cult Leader may choose to pass on leadership to yourself, making you the new Cult Leader. They will not be able to use abilities after doing this, and they will die at the end of the phase.
(Broadhead) Cult Leader’s Blood of Mithras will bypass immunities tonight.
(Gather Arrows alt) Chose 2 players. If one of them is attacked tonight by a non-cult member then you will attack the other. - 2 Use
(Archery alt) If the Cult Leader’s conversion fails or they use Blood of Mithras, you will shoot their target for them instead. Does not count as a visit. - 2 Uses
(Mark alt) Mark a player for death. If a player has three marks, you will kill them bypassing everything. - Infinite Usesstrong text


#274

I will not read them on principle


#275

you made that post orange


#276

I redid them actually
Because holy fuck I am salty still that I had to do some of the work


#277

ah was probably in a later post then


#278

Nobody forced you

Nuke said he could do it


#279

Cult Alts
(Broadhead) Cult Leader’s Blood of Mithras will bypass immunities tonight.
(Gather Arrows alt) Chose 2 players. If one of them is attacked tonight by a non-cult member then you will attack the other. - 2 Use
(Archery alt) If the Cult Leader’s conversion fails or they use Blood of Mithras, you will shoot their target for them instead. Does not count as a visit. - 2 Uses
(Mark alt) Mark a player for death. If a player has three marks, you will kill them bypassing everything. - Infinite Uses


#280

Workaholic represent


#281

The support ban is to allow buffs in the future

The reason for day occupation is because it gives more opportunities for actual classes to do stuff with the day self directs and stuff

A “true” killer in my opinion, should not exist, and my class reflects my opinion. It is better in the longrun for a class to be able to actively affect the game other than “kill” a player like once and be useless for the rest of the game
stares at Knight


#282

But if there aren’t many kills, what good is empowering kills to bypass healing?

Specifically, if a Sandalphon exists, it’s significantly less likely there’s another BD killer doing killings you might wish to bump up

Plus, heavily focusing on bypassing an ability only other BD have is probably not a great class design? I know you don’t mind fucking with your teammates, but the rest of us don’t share that trait :kissing_heart: