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FoL Changes Thread


EDIT: Thread renamed so that I can add new changes as replies in the future.

Here’s a list of changes that are now in the class cards to be used in FoL/SFoL games. If I messed something up or something needs clarification, feel free to ask about it!


  • There is now a hard limit of between 2 and 4 neutral classes in a game, excluding a Cowardly King.
  • Occupy immunity now grants target changing immunity.


  • Crimson Potion now heals poison and bleeding.
  • Added passive Coagulate:

Coagulate (Passive) - You are immune to bleeding and nightshade poison.


  • Added passive I am the Liquor:

I am the Liquor (Passive) - Immune to being occupied at night.

Court Wizard:

  • Magical Barrier now blocks conversion on it’s target.


  • Deception removed.


  • Added passive I am the Liquor (see Alcoholic).

Fool & Mad King:

  • Added passive Trickery:

Trickery (Passive) - Immune to being occupied at night.


  • Spike Traps and Cult Alt Blood Traps removed.
  • Added Bear Companion:

Bear Companion (Night) - Summon a bear to protect you from all attacks at night. The attackers will be dead in the morning (Bypasses night immunity). You will be death and conversion immune. - 3 uses

  • Added Cult Alt for Bear Companion:

Blood Wall (Night) - Create a wall of blood to protect yourself from attacks. You will be death immune. - 2 uses


  • Telepathy now has 2 uses.


  • Added passive Fanatic:

Fanatic (Passive) - Immune to being occupied at night.


  • Class added:

The Masochist

Neutral Offensive
Traumatic (Passive) - If you are killed at night, your killer(s) can’t use any killing ability the next night, and lose an extra use of the ability they used to kill you if it has limited uses.
Smokescreen (Passive) - You appear to be the class of your killer if you are killed at night. In the case of multiple killers, the class you appear as is randomised between them.
Cover-up (Day) - If you are investigated tonight, you will appear to be a member of the Blue Dragon. - 2 uses
Intervene (Night) - Get in someone’s way, making them target you tonight. - Infinite uses
Death Wish (Night) - Mark yourself for death. Players who attack you tonight or tomorrow night can’t be prevented from doing so, no matter what. (Bypasses all immunities including visit immunity, prevents all statuses that would stop them from attacking you like occupation or redirection) - 1 use
Be killed at night.


  • Bear Companion renamed to Spike Traps.


  • Imprison now prevents visits to the imprisoned target.


  • Will-o-Wisp is has been changed:

Will-o-Wisp (Night) - Uncage a Will O’ Wisp, lighting your room. If someone visits you at night, the player you targeted will have your visitor revealed to them. - 3 uses


  • Telepathy now has 2 uses.

Scorned & Begrudged King:

  • Frame/Contraband now has 3 uses.


  • Added the Dutiful passive:

Dutiful (Passive) - Immune to being occupied at night.

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These seem like good changes.
As usual, looking forward to more FoL games now.
Here’s to further forum fun and perplexing plays ^•^


There we go. Finally caught up to date essentially.

Still surprised mashochist already got added in actually considering it was told originally it was a DoL exclusive.

Pretty sure people are still sad that fool isn’t gone though


I want fool to exist but it needs to be nerfed to 1 or 2 days no executes. 3 is an instant loss to BD.


It is two days without execution, what are you talking about?

Excuse me? The cult people whined about it and they won? Salt is real on this one.


Maybe it’s an OP ability. Deception imo is a crutch


I can argue that this is not only used as self-defense, but you can cause chaos into believing that player that cannot be voted can be seen as demon.

Correct me if I am wrong, this ability is used only once throughout FoL history and it’s gone.


We didn’t remove it because of complaints, we removed it because (at least in my opinion) it was an ability that was either a complete game-changer or worthless, depending on circumstances.

EDIT: Also the fact that it slows the game down meaninglessly in the case of being worthless.

Also, I think Hippo is counting the day the Fool is executed on.


It’s pretty worthless imo because I was able just to nolynch and ignore that it had been used.
Eh, we’ll see how the changes are anyway. Let’s not make any pre-judgements!


It would have been game-changer in better circumstances, but all right.

Demon have to be stuck with just single day to empower the night ability to kill visitors bypassing all immunity, but have no occupation immunity. You can argue it hasn’t changed much but meh.


Deception seemed like an alright ability to me. Demon doesn’t really have any other abilities to survive compare to Posessor or anything, and it is just 1 use right.

Frost you waste a day hanging the fool and then you can’t lynch for 2 whole days. That is insane. The whole game shouldn’t be determined by one mislynch.


I mean I knew this court wizard claim is stinking of Fool’s underwear, but decide not to tell about it.

Pretty much destroyed my game as well.


I guess I’m quitting until Fool and Masochist are gone then


One of these roles was bad enough, why do we need two? That’s so backwards it hurts.


Did we even play the Masochist?


Not called Masochist, but I’ve been doing this for years, Frost, and I’ve played with this Joker crap enough to know it’s not fun either

Fool was bad enough, both is just unplayable.


I agree there was no reason to add the masochist at all. Like why?


Prince is obviously gonna exe super scummy claims giving masochist a free win if he’s jailed as no prince in his right mind would not exe just because there is a chance of a masochist.

Evils being punished for killing someone else at night is utterly bullshit too. Hey guess what you assassinated someone as the assasin, here have a roleblock cuz fuck youuu.


Ah yeah…I am not feeling it.


In that case, do you think that the Masochist would work better/be less bastard if it couldn’t fulfil it’s win condition by being Prince exe’d, and the Traumatic passive being removed?


don’t forget for now ashe and fade are in charge of FoL