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90% of players loved the whisper meta


#161

All we know is what we don’t want


#162

Just make a king a claim taker, let him talk to people at night


#163

and again. We are all at agreement that Allies is bad


#164

So prince or mystic?


#165

and you kinda ignored the second thing I said


#166

Yeah, we need more of those roles if whispers are not a thing


#167

We don’t and they are still a thing. Just not mass claim whispers


#168

I really don’t get why, maybe people are not used to it yet


#169

A good chunk of players already have played with allies. I seriously doubt that this is the case


#170

there is no reason to whisper now, you better just claim publicly


#171

Personally I think it’s because EK + Apostle + Aristocrat odds were making WKM scum sided. So when we removed WKM it made BD do better. And since NK wasn’t getting these benefits (just Unseen and Cult) that made it easier for him to deal with the other scum factions which made up for the additional danger from allies


#172

And guess what that leads to? Scumreading. The proof is in the fact that BD classes that are disproportionately effective when paired with scum reading are doing better than classes who primarily work with mechanical leads


#173


big oof


#174

True on every level


#175

We were wrong, Marl. We were wrong.
We were happy and didn’t knew it.


#176

i mean it’s plain that allies is a filler solution
but still


#177

Loves it, makes a class to counter it @shrimpy


#178

I actually don’t care about it as long as it remains a viable strategy, I tried to retract my vote after I saw your other post but couldn’t


#179

Just swap it :slight_smile:


#180

lol